gia02,
you are too funny... I still can't believe you did that...
LAgirl,
Don't worry too much... Remember when I saw you in our hotel room and told you about the horrendous swelling? lol... yea.... It's almost two weeks now for me and still a lot of swelling at the tip. And, I remember Jovin saying that it is common for one eye to swell more than the other...
Tanjh,
Yea... Dr. Chuang just emailed me about the sleeping thing... he said two weeks too.. You were right, Thanks...
He also told me that my nose won't break so easily and I needn't worry so much... lol...
Hi, i've added you to my msn. Hope you don't mind!! I'm going to do my nose and mini lipo on face and lips reduction with dr. chuang next month. Have heard you did your surgeries with him too so would like to ask you some questions.. hope you help me out!! By the way, hope to see you in MSN!! my email starts with R. so do accept me ya!
Hi people, i need some opinions here.. for those did or gonna do your surgery with Dr Chuang from Taiwan, when he quoted the price, is it possible to "ask for discount" ? As he quoted me a package price, but i was thinking if its still possible to ask for discount to fit my budget better... will really appreaciate any kind replies on this... THANKS ALOT!!
i think if u do more procedures with him eg eyes and nose you MAY get a little discount. how i wished there were student plans like macdonald's.
Thanks to him trusting me, Dr chuang mentioned that if the patient mentioned tanjhj recommended them, he will automatically gif further discount on top of the package price. to me it is the best he can go le...
Hi all
Talking about package deal, is there such thing in SG too? Coz i'll be going down to place a deposit for a surgery later today, but the doc didn't give me a package price. Is it possible to bargain too? I know it's kinda silly question but i've a feeling im overcharged and alot hidden cost were unknown to me until I ask
I'm just wondering whether the surgery, epicanthoplasty, makes a big difference to the appearance of the eyes? Apparently it makes you look more caucasion? Is this so?
Jovin, apparently you've had it? What's your opinion?
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: I'm in taipei now!!!
My eyes.... doing great! Love my new eyes Wah you can really sleep leh, from 2pm to 9:30pm! Hee Gia, it's abit too late, but didn't you know you can call the receptionist of Deja Vu to help order packet lunchbox? You don't have to starve for 3 days. Or, it's common for taiwanese to wear mask if they caught a cold, so you could have put on a mask and a hat, and get food.
gia02 wrote:
Jovin, i wanted to but Dr. Chuang insisted on waiting for another 6 more months to revise the eyes and he did mention its my nose that is non-oriental more than anything. I had a caucasian look according to him and hence suggested the nose reduction.
As for the hotel, i beg your pardon, thanks for the correction, i know there was plenty of food stalls around but i was concerned about walking around with a swollen nose
I am pleased but still anticipating for a speedy recovery, hows your eyes doing?
xgia
jovinliu wrote:
Gia i thought you flew there to do eyelid revision as priority?
gia02 wrote:
Hey everyone, im in de ja vu hotel now in Taipei. Just few hours ago, i had my surgery...rhinoplastry revision with Dr.Chuang.
Let me share my experience in this pain...
I must conclude that i am extrememly pleased and happy that i finally went throught this on my own!
Dr. Chuang and his team are the most friendly, patient, helpful medical professionals i have ever seen!
The funny part is i kept myself amused and had a good time with all that tension for an operation...i assume they think im funny!
Pretty interesting part is that i slept from 1pm all the way till 9-plus...they had to tell me to wake up!!!
I didnt notice it was night time until i went downstairs!--Anyway, hoping well for the recovery...back in sg on sat am.
-Now YOONIYAH...
where is this place that does eyelash/eyebrows implants?-Please let me knowxxx
Yoonyiah wrote:
i'm in south korea right now going on consultations for nose jobs...
ack, this is soooo nerve wracking and overwhelming aaaah!! Especially since I'm getting random input from my parents from abroad, and one disapproving father right here in Korea.
I've heard alot of rave reviews as well as complaints for different surgeons and I don't know WHO to believe!!! ACK!
So far I've been to three doctors, 2 worth mentioning.
First I went to Dr. Jung (Shimmian Rhinoplasty), then I went to the infamous Dr. Kim @ BK clinic.
Dr. Kim was rude and impatient, Dr. Jung was kind, gentle, the sweetest doctor. I can tell that he'd be very caring. Dr. Jung seems to be a good doctor with alot of experience, but he's not a certified plastic surgeon.
Dr. Kim, I heard is good, he's done alot of actresses work, but I also heard one horror story about him on another forum i think, and that makes me have reservations.
Anyone else here about these doctors?? Please give input this is all so overwhelming aahh!
I'm going to be spending alooot of money the next month or so. I'm also getting eyelash / eyebrow implants done in korea.
My girlfriend got hers done and went from having zero lashes/brows and it looks amazing! I'm excited!
does anyone have info about Dr. Jung or Dr.kim bk clinic??
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
Hey you did epicanto too? Wah keep bleeding up to the 5th day? Strange. Mine dried up on the 2nd day. But anyway, what matters most is the end result, so don't worry too much! Anyway, my left eye also swell more than the right side, so really it's normal. As for the laser mole removal, unless your mole is really big, if not, leave it. I did the removal on my back and arm, until now the mark is still there. Heng i didn't do on my face.
/Jovin
LAGirl wrote:
Hey People –
I am in Taiwan right now and 7 days post op from getting my eyes and nose done by Wishclinic. The swelling was A LOT more than I expected and I’m still pretty swollen (left eyelid is bigger than the right and the nose looks like it slants to the left side). For some reason I was having trouble with my left side as the left epincanto stitches kept bleeding up until 5 days post-op. I’m hoping it’s just uneven swelling but I guess I won’t know for sure until the swelling subsides. I finally got my stitches out today so if anyone wants to meet up in Taiwan, send me a pm . Also, I was thinking of getting laser mole removal for the little sun spots on my face and was wondering if someone could tell me the average cost for this procedure in Taiwan and a good clinic to go to? Thanks
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
It does makes the eyes looks bigger, but not necessarily more caucasian unless you specifically tell the doctor you want caucasian-looking eyes. Then the doctor will make the double eyelid crease higher and deeper.
Now my BF very scared when i stare at him...... so you know how big my eyes is!!!!! muahahaha....
missresplendence wrote:
Hey chickies & guys!
I'm just wondering whether the surgery, epicanthoplasty, makes a big difference to the appearance of the eyes? Apparently it makes you look more caucasion? Is this so?
Jovin, apparently you've had it? What's your opinion?
Thanks
Cheers,
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
That's really great to hear you are doing well Jovin,
I'd love to do epicantoplasty, but i ain't sure this is going to suit me. Jovin , if you don't mind , may i ask how much does Dr. chuang charge for epicantoplasty?
I'm going to BK Clinic in Korea sometime in Nov. I'm there to see Dr. Kim for more complicated procedures for the eye.
Is there anyone who had went to BK and what's your opinion? _________________ I love Korea - it's a very beautiful country
Hey Jovin -
Thanks for writing back to me. What do the scars look like? How big are they? Did Dr. C tell how long it would be to fully recover from the scarring? I heard when you do this - it's like a white patch but I didn't know there was a scar...
also, how much NTD did you have to pay?
Again, thanks for getting back to me
Jovin -
that's strange... i remember you posting that you removed the flat moles right? (i'm removing flat ones that looks like a small dot)...cuz I was researching online and it looks like when you remove the flat moles with laser it shouldn't lead to any kind of scarring? now that i read what you wrote, i'm kind of scared b/c i don't want any scarring on my face...
I'd love to visit Dr Chuang's Clinic in Taiwan, but i had already made an appointment with Dr. Kim.
I wonder why is there few responses for Dr. Kim. He is a very skillful surgeon in Korea. Is taiwan Wish clinic producing very pretty results? _________________ I love Korea - it's a very beautiful country
I'd love to visit Dr Chuang's Clinic in Taiwan, but i had already made an appointment with Dr. Kim.
I wonder why is there few responses for Dr. Kim. He is a very skillful surgeon in Korea. Is taiwan Wish clinic producing very pretty results?
because going to korea is ex plus surgery fees is much more ex than what dr chuang is charging. if they were of equal price i believe everyone will go to dr kim/jung. _________________ Cry when you get ripped.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: I'm in taipei now!!!
jovinliu wrote:
My eyes.... doing great! Love my new eyes Wah you can really sleep leh, from 2pm to 9:30pm! Hee Gia, it's abit too late, but didn't you know you can call the receptionist of Deja Vu to help order packet lunchbox? You don't have to starve for 3 days. Or, it's common for taiwanese to wear mask if they caught a cold, so you could have put on a mask and a hat, and get food.
gia02 wrote:
Jovin, i wanted to but Dr. Chuang insisted on waiting for another 6 more months to revise the eyes and he did mention its my nose that is non-oriental more than anything. I had a caucasian look according to him and hence suggested the nose reduction.
As for the hotel, i beg your pardon, thanks for the correction, i know there was plenty of food stalls around but i was concerned about walking around with a swollen nose
I am pleased but still anticipating for a speedy recovery, hows your eyes doing?
xgia
jovinliu wrote:
Gia i thought you flew there to do eyelid revision as priority?
gia02 wrote:
Hey everyone, im in de ja vu hotel now in Taipei. Just few hours ago, i had my surgery...rhinoplastry revision with Dr.Chuang.
Let me share my experience in this pain...
I must conclude that i am extrememly pleased and happy that i finally went throught this on my own!
Dr. Chuang and his team are the most friendly, patient, helpful medical professionals i have ever seen!
The funny part is i kept myself amused and had a good time with all that tension for an operation...i assume they think im funny!
Pretty interesting part is that i slept from 1pm all the way till 9-plus...they had to tell me to wake up!!!
I didnt notice it was night time until i went downstairs!--Anyway, hoping well for the recovery...back in sg on sat am.
-Now YOONIYAH...
where is this place that does eyelash/eyebrows implants?-Please let me knowxxx
Yoonyiah wrote:
i'm in south korea right now going on consultations for nose jobs...
ack, this is soooo nerve wracking and overwhelming aaaah!! Especially since I'm getting random input from my parents from abroad, and one disapproving father right here in Korea.
I've heard alot of rave reviews as well as complaints for different surgeons and I don't know WHO to believe!!! ACK!
So far I've been to three doctors, 2 worth mentioning.
First I went to Dr. Jung (Shimmian Rhinoplasty), then I went to the infamous Dr. Kim @ BK clinic.
Dr. Kim was rude and impatient, Dr. Jung was kind, gentle, the sweetest doctor. I can tell that he'd be very caring. Dr. Jung seems to be a good doctor with alot of experience, but he's not a certified plastic surgeon.
Dr. Kim, I heard is good, he's done alot of actresses work, but I also heard one horror story about him on another forum i think, and that makes me have reservations.
Anyone else here about these doctors?? Please give input this is all so overwhelming aahh!
I'm going to be spending alooot of money the next month or so. I'm also getting eyelash / eyebrow implants done in korea.
My girlfriend got hers done and went from having zero lashes/brows and it looks amazing! I'm excited!
does anyone have info about Dr. Jung or Dr.kim bk clinic??
jovin, i know, silly right! And didnt know about the packed lunch thing, sorry guys i may sound spoilt but i was disgusted with the food just for some reason!!!
OMG!!!Today, my boss came back to the office and asked me whats wrong with my nose, as its selling big, oh no!!!!!!!-Im so embarrassed!!! Im every way to reduce the swell...sigh, but i know in the end its so worth it!!! _________________ regards,
It does makes the eyes looks bigger, but not necessarily more caucasian unless you specifically tell the doctor you want caucasian-looking eyes. Then the doctor will make the double eyelid crease higher and deeper.
Now my BF very scared when i stare at him...... so you know how big my eyes is!!!!! muahahaha....
missresplendence wrote:
Hey chickies & guys!
I'm just wondering whether the surgery, epicanthoplasty, makes a big difference to the appearance of the eyes? Apparently it makes you look more caucasion? Is this so?
Jovin, apparently you've had it? What's your opinion?
Thanks
Cheers,
hahahaha...really? like sadako?im sure ur BF thinks ur pretty babexx _________________ regards,
Hi, thanks for the replies who and takuda.. actually Dr. Chuang quoted me:
1. open rhinoplasty with Goretex - NT68000 & NT10000 for the general anathesia additionally so total is NT78000. that equals to SGD$3550
2. liposuction of face - NT50000. that equals to SGD$2275
3. lip reduction - NT30000. that equals to SGD$1365
Total is SGD$7190.
But he gave me a package price of NT150000 so its SGD$6828, in the end the discount is only $SGD362.
Can someone tell me if i can ask for further discount?? Or is the price he is giving is already very reasonable? As I'm still a student, my budget is also very tight.
I was thinking to keep them under $6.5K. can someone please advice me.. really desperately need some advices here. Thanks....
u mean 3400 is not inclusive of evrything??? we have to pay additionally for the anesthesia?! omgg i didnt know!! _________________ Cry when you get ripped.
great to know you luv ur eyes!
r there anymore bruising like those light yellow type?
when d u start using skincare or cosmetics?
is there peeling of skin on crease
Hi, thanks for the replies who and takuda.. actually Dr. Chuang quoted me:
1. open rhinoplasty with Goretex - NT68000 & NT10000 for the additionally so total is NT78000. that equals to SGD$3550
2. liposuction of face - NT50000. that equals to SGD$2275
3. lip reduction - NT30000. that equals to SGD$1365
Total is SGD$7190.
But he gave me a package price of NT150000 so its SGD$6828, in the end the discount is only $SGD362.
Can someone tell me if i can ask for further discount?? Or is the price he is giving is already very reasonable? As I'm still a student, my budget is also very tight.
I was thinking to keep them under $6.5K. can someone please advice me.. really desperately need some advices here. Thanks....
u mean 3400 is not inclusive of evrything??? we have to pay additionally for the anesthesia?! omgg i didnt know!!
dun get the general anesthesia. i think almost all PS surgeon need u to pay extra for it.. just get the normal package will do.. than everything pao ka liao (covered)
anyway based on feedback from those who went to deja vu, there is restaurants and foodstalls near the hotel around 100m away. just need to walk out with the surgical mask and i remembered there is a jap restaurant selling various bento set for around SGD10! _________________ Golden Rules of PS:
1)If it aint broken, dun fix it / dun fix what u dun need
2)Perfect individual features usually dun yield perfect face
3)Work on your confidence 1st
[quote="jovinliu"]My eyes.... doing great! Love my new eyes Wah you can really sleep leh, from 2pm to 9:30pm! Hee Gia, it's abit too late, but didn't you know you can call the receptionist of Deja Vu to help order packet lunchbox? You don't have to starve for 3 days. Or, it's common for taiwanese to wear mask if they caught a cold, so you could have put on a mask and a hat, and get food.
hi jovin..
its really nice to hear that you love your new eyes.
If you dont mind,may i know how much longer is the your eyes swollen was healing since your surgery until now?Is your eyes still swelling now?
Really thanks for the answer..
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: Hi TAnjhj
Hello tanjhj
Have you had your surgery done by Dr. chuang? Do you mind if i can see your photo? which part of your face did you alter?
I'm considering Korea because it's famous for P.S and the doctors are very skillful. but i don't mind to try Tai wan WISH clinic for other procedures if it's really great results.
Tanjhj my personal email is airene_1@hotmail.com May we exchange photos? _________________ I love Korea - it's a very beautiful country
Dr Chuang charged me $32000 for both epicanto and re-doing of my double eyelid. I didn't ask him for the breakdown.
/Jovin
Shiyun wrote:
That's really great to hear you are doing well Jovin,
I'd love to do epicantoplasty, but i ain't sure this is going to suit me. Jovin , if you don't mind , may i ask how much does Dr. chuang charge for epicantoplasty?
I'm going to BK Clinic in Korea sometime in Nov. I'm there to see Dr. Kim for more complicated procedures for the eye.
Is there anyone who had went to BK and what's your opinion?
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
Hmmm.... it looks like... ahhh! sometimes when mosquito bite, it will turn dark right? Like, in the middle something small poked inside before, then around it there's a dark ring.... that's the best i can explain I can take a photo and show you, but then i'm using a new laptop and i don't know how to on the stupid bluetooth for the file transfer
For me, it's definitely not a white patch leh. Mine is dark. The are about 1cm in diameter, and i have noticed they are starting to lighten.
LAGirl wrote:
Hey Jovin -
Thanks for writing back to me. What do the scars look like? How big are they? Did Dr. C tell how long it would be to fully recover from the scarring? I heard when you do this - it's like a white patch but I didn't know there was a scar...
also, how much NTD did you have to pay?
Again, thanks for getting back to me
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
I won't say it's scar.... it's a natural reaction after the laser mole removal. The dark ring is getting lighter each day.
LAGirl wrote:
Jovin -
that's strange... i remember you posting that you removed the flat moles right? (i'm removing flat ones that looks like a small dot)...cuz I was researching online and it looks like when you remove the flat moles with laser it shouldn't lead to any kind of scarring? now that i read what you wrote, i'm kind of scared b/c i don't want any scarring on my face...
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
Funny thing is, i didn't bruise at all. Not even the light yellow type which tends to spread around the eye. It can either be because of the Sinecch i took, but don't think so because previous time i took Sinecch too but i got light bruising around my eyes. Other than that, most likely is i "accidently" ate 燒酒雞 after the op! I was hungry, so i went out to tahbao dinner. I ordered 燒酒雞, thinking it's a small portion for 1 person but hell i was wrong, it's at least half a chicken inside! It's cooked with lots of ginger (which improves circulation), some herbs and lots of chinese glutinous wine. After finishing everything, i was feeling lightheaded, abit drunk and goggy, and DAMN WARM.... and ta-da! I didn't bruise at all. But i don't suggest you try it, because it's not proven and it may just be my ass luck.
candall wrote:
hi jovin
great to know you luv ur eyes!
r there anymore bruising like those light yellow type?
when d u start using skincare or cosmetics?
is there peeling of skin on crease
thanks!
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
First week, don't even think about going out without at least sunglass or specs. Second week better, this week the swell is not obvious to others except myself, and it's already looking natural (after makeup) by the second week. I'm very surprised. With my eye make-up off, actually it's still looks abit swollen, but with makeup (of course your makeup skills must be good lah!), no problem!
/Jovin
[quote="ochtri17r"]
jovinliu wrote:
My eyes.... doing great! Love my new eyes Wah you can really sleep leh, from 2pm to 9:30pm! Hee Gia, it's abit too late, but didn't you know you can call the receptionist of Deja Vu to help order packet lunchbox? You don't have to starve for 3 days. Or, it's common for taiwanese to wear mask if they caught a cold, so you could have put on a mask and a hat, and get food.
hi jovin..
its really nice to hear that you love your new eyes.
If you dont mind,may i know how much longer is the your eyes swollen was healing since your surgery until now?Is your eyes still swelling now?
Really thanks for the answer..
_________________ Hmmm... what should I do next? Cheekbone reduction maybe?
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: Jovin''s photo
Hello jovin, may i see a photo of your eyes when you have fully recovered? All thanks to you that i came to know Dr. chuang.
I had booked a consultation with Dr. Kim in Korea but if the results of dr chuang is good, I 'd like to have the surgery done by dr chuang in taiwan instead.
Do you mind me taking a look at your photo of your eyes? thank you. Would really appreciate if you can assist me in this. thanks. I really would like to improve on my eyes since many people said that i looked tired. i can also email a photo of myself recently to you if you like.
Thank you very much. _________________ I love Korea - it's a very beautiful country
Hi people, i need some opinions here.. for those did or gonna do your surgery with Dr Chuang from Taiwan, when he quoted the price, is it possible to "ask for discount" ? As he quoted me a package price, but i was thinking if its still possible to ask for discount to fit my budget better... will really appreaciate any kind replies on this... THANKS ALOT!!
i think if u do more procedures with him eg eyes and nose you MAY get a little discount. how i wished there were student plans like macdonald's.
Thanks to him trusting me, Dr chuang mentioned that if the patient mentioned tanjhj recommended them, he will automatically gif further discount on top of the package price. to me it is the best he can go le...
Hi people, I emailed Dr. Chuang for a better discount for my procedures.. but he didn't reply me for already 2 days... will he think i'm cheapskate and stop replying me??? What should i do now....
Hi, thanks for the replies who and takuda.. actually Dr. Chuang quoted me:
1. open rhinoplasty with Goretex - NT68000 & NT10000 for the additionally so total is NT78000. that equals to SGD$3550
2. liposuction of face - NT50000. that equals to SGD$2275
3. lip reduction - NT30000. that equals to SGD$1365
Total is SGD$7190.
But he gave me a package price of NT150000 so its SGD$6828, in the end the discount is only $SGD362.
Can someone tell me if i can ask for further discount?? Or is the price he is giving is already very reasonable? As I'm still a student, my budget is also very tight.
I was thinking to keep them under $6.5K. can someone please advice me.. really desperately need some advices here. Thanks....
u mean 3400 is not inclusive of evrything??? we have to pay additionally for the anesthesia?! omgg i didnt know!!
dun get the general anesthesia. i think almost all PS surgeon need u to pay extra for it.. just get the normal package will do.. than everything pao ka liao (covered)
anyway based on feedback from those who went to deja vu, there is restaurants and foodstalls near the hotel around 100m away. just need to walk out with the surgical mask and i remembered there is a jap restaurant selling various bento set for around SGD10!
hey! thanks for that! wow..but do i have to book a room first like 3 mths b4? or in advance? how to contact them? and..do dr chuang have like recovering rooms for his patients. if i can stay there then it will be great. _________________ Cry when you get ripped.
Has anyone done facial lipo? I've consulted a doc and he said the incisions will be behind the ears. I'm wondering if the scars will be obvious as I need to tie my hair up for work.
Also, any docs to recommend?
I'm intending to do facial lipo with Dr. chuang. But from his replies thru email, the incisions doesnt seem to be done behind the ears, this is what he said:
Cheek liposuction:
Yes I think liposuction over cheek area will be good for your slimming down the shape. We perform this procedure through the mouth. However I will suggest you to take general anathesia for this procedure.
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Wah you can really sleep leh, from 2pm to 9:30pm! Hee Gia, it's abit too late, but didn't you know you can call the receptionist of Deja Vu to help order packet lunchbox? You don't have to starve for 3 days. Or, it's common for taiwanese to wear mask if they caught a cold, so you could have put on a mask and a hat, and get food.
. Also, I was thinking of getting laser mole removal for the little sun spots on my face and was wondering if someone could tell me the average cost for this procedure in Taiwan and a good clinic to go to? Thanks
