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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Nokia Care(less) Centre frustrations Reply with quote

3 weeks ago I brought in my Nokia 6260 for repair, SD memory card was no longer recognized and lcd screen was dark.

So I bring it to the Nokia Care Center at Wheelock, after queuing for about 45 minutes I was serviced by a friendly agent. It would take 3 - 5 days to repair, I would be called when ready. Sounds ok.

After 1 week I was around, so went in and asked about status repair. No one had a clue, records could not be found first, but after 20 minutes, the care center manager assured me I would get a call next week, no problem sir.

Last week, no call. This week, no call. Tried calling them a few times at their 'service' number, no information.

Needless to say I am totally fed up with this total lack of decent and helpful service provided.

Does anyone here experienced the same or does anyone here have suggestions on how to handle this? Any escalation points, or where can I make a complaint and be sure this is taken serious?

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Nokia Care(less) Centre frustrations Reply with quote

Eric from the Netherlands wrote:
3 weeks ago I brought in my Nokia 6260 for repair, SD memory card was no longer recognized and lcd screen was dark.

So I bring it to the Nokia Care Center at Wheelock, after queuing for about 45 minutes I was serviced by a friendly agent. It would take 3 - 5 days to repair, I would be called when ready. Sounds ok.

After 1 week I was aorund, so went in and asked about status repair. No one had a clue, records could not be found first, but after 20 minutes, the care center manager assured me I would get a call next week, no problem sir.

Last week, no call. This week, no call. Tried calling them a few times at their 'service' number, no information.

Needless to say I am totally fed up with this total lack of decent and helpful service provided.

Does anyone here experienced the same or does anyone here have suggestions on how to handle this? Any escalation points, or where can I make a complaint and be sure this is taken serious?

Thanks in advance,

Eric


do u have the receipt that they took your handphone in for repair? if yes, then u can go down and make hell for them.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Nokia Care(less) Centre frustrations Reply with quote

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3 weeks ago I brought in my Nokia 6260 for repair, SD memory card was no longer recognized and lcd screen was dark.

So I bring it to the Nokia Care Center at Wheelock, after queuing for about 45 minutes I was serviced by a friendly agent. It would take 3 - 5 days to repair, I would be called when ready. Sounds ok.

After 1 week I was around, so went in and asked about status repair. No one had a clue, records could not be found first, but after 20 minutes, the care center manager assured me I would get a call next week, no problem sir.

Last week, no call. This week, no call. Tried calling them a few times at their 'service' number, no information.

Needless to say I am totally fed up with this total lack of decent and helpful service provided.

Does anyone here experienced the same or does anyone here have suggestions on how to handle this? Any escalation points, or where can I make a complaint and be sure this is taken serious?

Thanks in advance,

Eric


I had the same kind of service problem, when i took my minolta camera, to have the lens recalibrated. cost me a hundred $ after 1 month of waiting, when it arrived, i got home and tested the camera, it appeared, they had done nothing! Maybe thinking i was a tourist and would leave.

I took it back to the shop, and complained, they sent the camera off again, and it took 3 days, went to collect and they wanted a 100$, I kept my cool and told them, to kiss my arse. They had been paid once already.

I took the camera out of the guys hand and walked out. The best thing you can do Eric is to raise your voice a little and demand action. If they have lost the phone you will have to be compensated.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry Eric, with the receipt you are empowered to get a properly fixed phone which is still under warranty.

if they lost it, i thin it's obvious what needs to be done. YOu stand your ground in the shop, to which you have all the right because of this crap, and demand an explanation now and then.

This happened in Kuala Lumpur.

My brother got his phone fixed, and 2months later, there was still dilly-dallying. i didn't know, so when he told me 2 months later, we marched to the shop and was directed from one shop to the next to the next to the next.
the final shop didn't have the name written on the receipt?!

well, the technician on duty was acting a good Hollywood wannabe-actor, searching within and outside of his drawers, on the table, etc. Got to give him some marks.
Couldn't find it, then he escalated to lady boss.

WE WERE GOING TO BE REDIRECTED TO ANOTHER SHOP, after which i said loudly, in Cantonese, "We are going to hold the shop with the name on this receipt responsible for our 6630."

2 days later my bro got his spanking 6630 back.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I did have a receipt. I went down yesterday to Wheelock care center. At the reception desk a friendly girl looked at the receipt, searched in the computer and then decided I had already collected my phone...

Nope, I didnot... (I said neutral).

Another guy came, the two started discussing in Mandarin in front of me, directing at the screen in fron of them. I interrupted them and told them to not be so rude in changing to Mandarin and mumble right in front of me.

The guy told me that spare parts were not in yet, so it would take 'another week or so'.

That's where I exploded. I raised my voice and told them I would no longer accept this. Bring me the manager of the center I requested. 5 minutes later the manager explained to me that it was because spare parts were not in yet. So I told him that the least they could have done is to inform me properly. He defended himself that it would be impossible to do so for every customer. I told him better to change the name of Nokia Care Center in careless center in that case.

I told him to update me by this Friday personally on the status and if the phone would not be ready by end of next week, I want them to compensate me with a new phone. Probably because of the way I demanded it, he agreed.

When we left, my wife told me she never seen me this angry. I told her all they need to do to get me as angry as this time is to do exactly what they did.

On the way home I bought myself another phone, as a priciple I will no longer use Nokia, I changed to a Motorola V3 (as if that would help... Wink ).

Thanks all for sharing your experiences!

I will see if I get a repaired phone or a new phone next week...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric from the Netherlands wrote:
That's where I exploded. ............... my wife told me she never seen me this angry. I told her all they need to do to get me as angry as this time is to do exactly what they did.

On the way home I bought myself another phone, as a priciple I will no longer use Nokia, I changed to a Motorola V3 (as if that would help... Wink ).

Thanks all for sharing your experiences!

I will see if I get a repaired phone or a new phone next week...

Eric
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:54 pm

My experience anywhere in the world I go is that I get treated better when I am friendly myself, so "guest", take my advice, stopp nagging, smile, treat people indifferent of race and nationality nice and you will be treated nicely eventualy.


Hoist by your own petard? Maybe there is some merit after all in what the majority say. It wasn't Nokia that treated you badly, it was people. No malice meant, but methinks it's a good time to climb down off the highhorse. One good snipe deserves another....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Nokia Care(less) Centre frustrations Reply with quote

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Does anyone here experienced the same?
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All I can say is: it' s my life and welcome to it.

May be it's because I have to get all the things serviced for my husband (shamelessly addicted to having the gadget of the week) and three kids.

May be it because 'they don't build things like they used to'.

The service industry in Singapore looks good, but usually there is some stupid glitch without the slightest bit of apology on the other side. I could write a book but would certainly die of a duodenal ulcer berfore my splashy book tour.

I waited in line at Nokia for 2 hours after the service desk told me I had an awful virus -- which miraculously disappeared when my number was called and I was seen by the technician. Imagine the conversation which ensued.
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Eric from the Netherlands wrote:
That's where I exploded. ............... my wife told me she never seen me this angry. I told her all they need to do to get me as angry as this time is to do exactly what they did.

On the way home I bought myself another phone, as a priciple I will no longer use Nokia, I changed to a Motorola V3 (as if that would help... Wink ).

Thanks all for sharing your experiences!

I will see if I get a repaired phone or a new phone next week...

Eric
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:54 pm

My experience anywhere in the world I go is that I get treated better when I am friendly myself, so "guest", take my advice, stopp nagging, smile, treat people indifferent of race and nationality nice and you will be treated nicely eventualy.


Hoist by your own petard? Maybe there is some merit after all in what the majority say. It wasn't Nokia that treated you badly, it was people. No malice meant, but methinks it's a good time to climb down off the highhorse. One good snipe deserves another....

Oops!

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tried the 'friendly smiling' method the first 3 times I went down there sms, obviously it was not the right strategy.

But even this time, I did thank the manager and shook hands before I left.

And yes, they are people, being employed, paid and trained by Nokia, having to enforce Nokia's way of servicing customers.

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Does anyone here experienced the same?
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All I can say is: it' s my life and welcome to it.

May be it's because I have to get all the things serviced for my husband (shamelessly addicted to having the gadget of the week) and three kids.

May be it because 'they don't build things like they used to'.

The service industry in Singapore looks good, but usually there is some stupid glitch without the slightest bit of apology on the other side. I could write a book but would certainly die of a duodenal ulcer berfore my splashy book tour.

I waited in line at Nokia for 2 hours after the service desk told me I had an awful virus -- which miraculously disappeared when my number was called and I was seen by the technician. Imagine the conversation which ensued.


Can I suggest next time we go down there together bh10y? I will invite you for a nice coffee at Borders' cafe first, then we will pay our visit to Nokia's Careless Center. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Nokia Care(less) Centre frustrations Reply with quote

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Can I suggest next time we go down there together bh10y? I will invite you for a nice coffee at Borders' cafe first, then we will pay our visit to Nokia's Careless Center. Smile
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Oh please. Please don't suggest there will be a next time. Besides I'm a chai tea latte kinda gal.
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Double-gagger? Very Happy

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then decided I had already collected my phone...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.. seems like 6260 does give quite a few problems Confused

I'm using a 6260 too and it's only less than 6 mths old and I had to send it to Nokia to get it fixed Mad Something happened to the volume thingy, whenever I called others, they can hear my clearly but I couldn't hear a single thing Evil or Very Mad

But anyway, we brought my 6260 and the other less than a year nokia phone to the Service centre at parkway and got it back the next day. But it did an auto shut down twice though Confused

Hmm by the way, did any of you encounter having this little @ icon at the top of your phone? I called M1 regarding it and all I could get back from them was that they're investigating it with nokia and nothing can be done Surprised
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yeah est,

I heard other bad stories about the 6260 as well.

Would you believe btw they didnot call back yet, so their promise to have it fixed by last weekend is an airbubble again. I was at Wheelock this Sunday, but just didnot want to pass by, as I probably would have vanadlised the whole careless center and a few csr's over there.

But now I am gonna have them keep their promise for giving me a brand new phone, for sure. This weekend is payback time, grrrr..... Mad

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Sounds bad Confused Hope they can give you an answer soon! Smile

Time for me to change my phone too...Hmm should I continue with Nokia?
Hrmm.... I kind of like the 6680 and 6681.. Anyone using these models now?
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6630! 6630! Very Happy

I'll probably get slammed for this, but 6260 is just one of Nokia's first attempts at clamshells...
It's Version 1.0 for you Crying or Very sad
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And yes, they are people, being employed, paid and trained by Nokia, having to enforce Nokia's way of servicing customers.

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Actually, I think Nokia outsources their repair services to a third party. Used to be ACCS, which collapsed so dramatically when Nokia withdrew. Not sure who it is now. But, in general, there are NUMEROUS stories about poor service from their [dis]service company.

Here's mine (SonyEricsson though). Got a grey-market Z1010 in the early days of 3G. Pretty soon, it went semi-kaput: in zero-signal 3G zones, it sometimes wouldn't automatically switch over to the 2G network, which meant I was left with basically a brick that couldn't be used at all. Even turning the phone off and on wouldn't help. So I took it to SonyEricsson at Wisma Atria. Right off the bat they said they wouldn't honour the warranty as it wasn't purchased locally. Fine, I expected that, no problem, please go ahead and diagnose the problem. After two weeks, they call and say the "mainboard needs to be replaced". Shucks, I say, how much will that be? The answer?


ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!!!

And the phone, WITHOUT contract-subsidies, was selling at about 800 - 900 in the open market at that time, with a local warranty. Bizarre. 1200 to replace a part when a new phone cost less? WTF???

So I sent it to a business associate in Australia (as the phone was ostensibly still under warranty down under, that being the country of origin). After one month (!), Sony Ericsson returned the phone saying they couldn't find anything wrong with it. Holy cr*p! Look carefully, bozos, if it was okay I wouldn't have sent it all the way down, now would I?

So now I'm waiting for the return of my rather expensive paper-weight.

Moral of the day: don't buy a grey-market phone. At least not an expensive one.
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what's a grey-market phone? one not sold by the authorized dealer?
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Something like that; typically anything that's "unofficially" imported, manufacturer warranty privileges may not apply, etc.

In my case, the Z1010 was bought from 3 in Australia - I paid S$ 400 instead of the then prevailing price in excess of S$ 750. So that's S$ 400 worth of regrets for me... Mad

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I see, in that case for Malaysia, I've heard that the grey-market phones are actually rejected phones from overseas giant carriers like Vodafone and O2.
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So many variations of this, there's no one fixed meaning. In general: unofficial import, applicable duties (if any) typically not paid, no local warranty.

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Its a curse really. I understand that now. I will die at the Nokia Care Centre -- years from now they'll find my petrified remains -- boney claw-like fingers clutching an ancient copy of Hello! with a cold Chai Latte at my feet.

Is there a worse place to spend time then the Nokia Care Center on a Monday morning?

Musn't grumble, its my daughter's phone a tomorrow is her birthday after all... Parenting is way, way. WAY more than I signed up for!
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In and out of the Nokia Care Centre in 10 minutes today. A miracle! Only drawback was that the guy who helped me had on those creepy powder blue fake contact lenses. Took my breathe away for a minute...
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Hi there,

I realized Nokia nowadays sucks, in terms of product and service.

First, I bought a E63 a week plus ago, everything worked fine. A week later, I did a software update at home, and that is where my nightmare starts.

The original applications in the phone all been wiped out, like the email I set up, MSN, windows live, even facebook, all of them are gone. The next day, I brought it to the service centre to request for a restore, they did another firmware flashed for me. Unfortunately, I didn't double check the phone, but only asked them, is everything fine? They said yes.

After I got home, tried to set it up with my email and so, then I realized all applications still missing. I made a call to their service centre, which directed me to Philippines, physically someone answered my call from Philippines. A lady office attended to me, and asked me some question, couldn't get it worked. She said she will get the technician to call me back in 2 hours time, of course, no calls from them after 3 hours. I made another call to the local number, which directed me to Philippines again. Another girl answered. I repeated my problem once again, still can't work.

I was quite pissed already, in the first place, if the update will wipe out everything, user should be prompted something like "user at their risk for the flashing, as might experience application lost", cos from what I understand about hardware update, it will only wipe out your data not the applications. I talked to their centre manager, besides saying sorry and sorry, she couldn't advise me anything else. And they also said will get someone to call me back on this issue and get it fixed, but few days already, I didn't receive any calls, neither email.

I am not sure if others experienced the same while doing the update, but for me, I am rather unhappy with the phone, the so-called online updates, and their service. All negative rating. If go on like this, I think they will lose their market shares soon.



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On the way home I bought myself another phone, as a priciple I will no longer use Nokia, I changed to a Motorola V3 (as if that would help... Wink ).

Thanks all for sharing your experiences!

I will see if I get a repaired phone or a new phone next week...

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I realized Nokia nowadays sucks, in terms of product and service.

Nokia is like democracy: it's the worst phone out there, except all the others Razz

Seriously, there are major differences between individual phones and the very latest models tend to have buggy software. Stay a year or two behind the curve, and they get much better: eg. my Nokia 6110 Navigator is absolutely rock solid. While no company is perfect, in my experience others, especially SonyEricsson, tend to be even worse.
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radical but a solution never the less.

1/ Get your noki-eric-sam-Htc and bin it
2/ go to the gas station and buy an 80 dollar contractless phone.

If theres ever a problem simply repeat steps 1 & 2

The saving in time, frustation and general grief at the service centre is worth it.

Do i need push pop wizz bang email, internet on the go. Do i want email at my bed side. Do i want overseas clients ringing me at 4 am because i didn't respond to their email in a nano second.
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Eric from the Netherlands wrote:
3 weeks ago I brought in my Nokia 6260 for repair, SD memory card was no longer recognized and lcd screen was dark.

So I bring it to the Nokia Care Center at Wheelock, after queuing for about 45 minutes I was serviced by a friendly agent. It would take 3 - 5 days to repair, I would be called when ready. Sounds ok.

After 1 week I was around, so went in and asked about status repair. No one had a clue, records could not be found first, but after 20 minutes, the care center manager assured me I would get a call next week, no problem sir.

Last week, no call. This week, no call. Tried calling them a few times at their 'service' number, no information.

Needless to say I am totally fed up with this total lack of decent and helpful service provided.

Does anyone here experienced the same or does anyone here have suggestions on how to handle this? Any escalation points, or where can I make a complaint and be sure this is taken serious?

Thanks in advance,

Eric


I had the same kind of service problem, when i took my minolta camera, to have the lens recalibrated. cost me a hundred $ after 1 month of waiting, when it arrived, i got home and tested the camera, it appeared, they had done nothing! Maybe thinking i was a tourist and would leave.

I took it back to the shop, and complained, they sent the camera off again, and it took 3 days, went to collect and they wanted a 100$, I kept my cool and told them, to kiss my arse. They had been paid once already.

I took the camera out of the guys hand and walked out. The best thing you can do Eric is to raise your voice a little and demand action. If they have lost the phone you will have to be compensated.
This happend to me too, same camera problem on the old film camera, same price and also tried to charge me twice, I gave them the same response and took my camera out of his hand.
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3 weeks ago I brought in my Nokia 6260 for repair, SD memory card was no longer recognized and lcd screen was dark.

So I bring it to the Nokia Care Center at Wheelock, after queuing for about 45 minutes I was serviced by a friendly agent. It would take 3 - 5 days to repair, I would be called when ready. Sounds ok.

After 1 week I was around, so went in and asked about status repair. No one had a clue, records could not be found first, but after 20 minutes, the care center manager assured me I would get a call next week, no problem sir.

Last week, no call. This week, no call. Tried calling them a few times at their 'service' number, no information.

Needless to say I am totally fed up with this total lack of decent and helpful service provided.

Does anyone here experienced the same or does anyone here have suggestions on how to handle this? Any escalation points, or where can I make a complaint and be sure this is taken serious?

Thanks in advance,

Eric


Nokia is going worste over all world wide in Support.
in India also it takes 1 hour to submit Nokia phone and they take atleast 15 days to order, replace part and give back.

An more funny is the same problem reoccurs too.
I am never a Nokia customer though. I am curently happy with Asus P320
Earlier I had Siemens mobile. Not so famous but stable.

Rgards,
Amey.
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