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Taylormade
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Thanks! Do you know more about this industry in Singapore? If so, may I send you a private message to get more info?
I am sure I will make more than 100K if we include bonus.
It is not Manpower, nor is it Kelly's.
It is the market leader for recruitment in the financial field.
I think I know what to ask for, they seem to be very eager and I am up for it, if the financial incentive and career path are both good. |
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sundaymorningstaple
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Unless it has changed considerably since I left the business as an employee, I think you will find that here it is rather meagre on the basic side but with ample commissions. Therefore it will be up to you to bring the bacon to the table. Most companies here just tend to give you the table and it's up to you to fill out your menu if you catch my drift. Sounds like you might be talking about RH? No I don't have any data about them as my expertise was in hard engineering in the O&G/Petrochem/Civil arena. I don't venture outside my expertise for a quick buck at the expense of my rep.
Good luck to you, your estimated is should be within expectations on both sides as long as you are talking all-in numbers.
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Taylormade
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, seems I can't send a PM.
I wanted to send one to you sms, thanks so much for giving your insight info on this.
My main motivation is not the money. I will explain why. I am in a company with many opportunities to grow, both business wise (for the company) and personal wise (short path to management level). I have been in Shanghai for 3 years and I know that I will not stay here forever but I would like to experience Singapore as a working professional. For me to give up my current job, the opportunity in Singapore should be a very good one, but also with reasonable pay. My wife will go along with me and she needs time to find a job, so I need to support both as well.
I know Singapore, I know we can fit in well there and should we have kids, then Singapore would be a perfect place to raise them. The only question is, is the timing right?
They have been pushing as well, said this is the right moment to make the step, otherwise it would be too late. Imho, this is bs, there is always an opportunity to make a move, if they want me know, I am sure they even want me more in 1-2 years. I am convinced of that. They are very eager, want to fly me into Singapore for further interviews, I will have to free up some time in my schedule.
For them to convince me? Clear career path, 100K basic salary excluding housing and certain support for us to integrate into Singapore society.
What about the Chinese market for people like us? Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. I am now on 70 SGD net per year and I know I can be on 100K within 2 years, with yearly increases of 15-25% and promotion increase. I have been approached by two other firms here in Shanghai, but moving within Shanghai is not an option. Singapore is my next destination. |
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NuClear
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| singaporeans earn so much? god darn, i'm the only poor basket around here huh? |
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sundaymorningstaple
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| NuClear wrote: | | god darn, i'm the only poor basket around here huh? |
Looking at the quality of your posts, I'd say what you are currently earning is still probably way way too much. No matter how little, you are probably still overpaid.
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Taylormade
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| Well, I got the offer and I must say, I am disappointed. |
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gnom
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I got an offer today and they will give me SD 140k, 1 month appartment, relocation, flight.
Is this a good deal? Im a Unix administrator with more then 10 years experience.
The condos are so expensive in Sing. Should I go for the rent too? |
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MblSH
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| gnom wrote: | I got an offer today and they will give me SD 140k, 1 month appartment, relocation, flight.
Is this a good deal? Im a Unix administrator with more then 10 years experience.
The condos are so expensive in Sing. Should I go for the rent too? |
Is it also in a bank, like your previous positions? What's the title offered, if you don't mind me asking?
S$140 would be a fair offer, I guess; unfortunately, as far as I know banks here do not offer rent allowance for grunts, at least not for permanent relocation - it's all based on rumors though, so I might be wrong.
Also, they have all adopted this 'whatever you got now + 10% scheme', which is annoying, so the offered figure is more tied to whatever you're getting now, instead of experience |
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gnom
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| It is in a bank and the jobtitle would be Solaris Systems Engineer. |
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MblSH
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By title I meant is it AVP or VP level, or manager/general manager, not the job title 
Anyway, I think that it's fair for a technical position in the bank right now, unless it's not a critical role that they absolutelly have to fill asap and are willing to pay extra.
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gnom
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| ok, sorry for the missunderstanding and thank you for the information |
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Ahdave
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| got that high? |
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samuel.faith
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Hi,
I have 4 years of experiences as Personnel Executive Officer (same as Human Resource Manager) at the local ISP in Myanmar. Plus, I have one year experiences as Operations Executive at a tourism industry as well.
I would like to know that with my work experiences, what kind of jobs and salaries can I expect to get in Singapore? I am planning to apply for jobs there.
Thanks in advance! |
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sundaymorningstaple
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If you are a Myanmar national you will probably be looking at 1800~2000 SGD/mo max. I know this is not what you want to hear but thats the hard facts.
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jp900
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| sundaymorningstaple wrote: | | If you are a Myanmar national you will probably be looking at 1800~2000 SGD/mo max. I know this is not what you want to hear but thats the hard facts. |
You seem to know banking. How about retail banking. How much do you think a manager (regional) in the likes of Citibank or DBS or Amex would make? Thanks! |
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deelady
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hey
I must say, this is a very interesting and informative thread for me.
I am still a student, graduating from poly only coming feb. This somehow makes me know where i stand when i am out.
It does worry me somehow, then again it motivates me to be an expat soon. haha.
Would like to do is being in Logistics Sector a good choice?
Do any here have words of wisdom for a student? Would be greatly appreciated. What kind of salary can a undergrad and a grad look for?
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travellingcircus
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It would seem the information on salaries and salary packages is very complex. There have been a few questions about whether sing100k ids enough to live and I am still a bit confused about the response.
It seems that a 2 bed condo would cost around 2500k a month as a min.As expats we also have our expenses in our home country to maintain. But from what I can work out a salary of 90-100k would be plenty for a family to live comfortably. perhaps i has miscalculated something?
Would appreciate any comments.
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samuel.faith
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| sundaymorningstaple wrote: | | If you are a Myanmar national you will probably be looking at 1800~2000 SGD/mo max. I know this is not what you want to hear but thats the hard facts. |
Hi,
I understand I cannot get high paying jobs initially without securing a high educational qualification. What I want to know is if I can certainly secure a job with minimum pay of SGD1500. And what kind of job I can get.
Sam |
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cfview
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| All the conversations above, with pay in range of $100k ~ 200k. Does the package include other benefits like medical, dental, cpf ext? Or it's just lump sum payment without the other benefits? |
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lasingpros
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: will 7500SGD be good enough |
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Dear All,
I'm currently working in Europe and getting 70000€/yr. I'm getting a job offer in singapore which is 90000S$/yr. I heared taxes in singapore are quite low so will the offer be equal to what I get in europe?.Also will I be able to get get tax reliefs for wife and child as I get in europe.
If I get 7500S$/month what will be the saving capacity for a person with a wife and a small baby of four months?.
How much will b the living expenses, baby related expenses.Please advice. |
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blades29
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: will 7500SGD be good enough |
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| lasingpros wrote: | Dear All,
I'm currently working in Europe and getting 70000€/yr. I'm getting a job offer in singapore which is 90000S$/yr. I heared taxes in singapore are quite low so will the offer be equal to what I get in europe?.Also will I be able to get get tax reliefs for wife and child as I get in europe.
If I get 7500S$/month what will be the saving capacity for a person with a wife and a small baby of four months?.
How much will b the living expenses, baby related expenses.Please advice. |
u may be better off with the europe pay package.
rental $300 & up
milk $20~$30 per 1 kg tin (4-6 mths old formula) - u probably need 2 tins per week at that age.
diapers cost about $0.30 each. That works out to about $20 per week.
food is generally cheap. But restaurant can range up to the high class pricey ones.
Social welfare aka Central Provident Fund (CPF) safekeeps a percentage of your take home pay (between 5-20% depending on your status).
If your spouse is frugal, you 2 can manage with a budget of $3~4K. Else you will probably may spend most of your pay on sundry expenses. |
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blades29
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| cfview wrote: | | All the conversations above, with pay in range of $100k ~ 200k. Does the package include other benefits like medical, dental, cpf ext? Or it's just lump sum payment without the other benefits? |
generally pay stands for the gross salary. It includes the bonus and commissions.
It is exclusive of the fringe benefits like medical and dental.
It is inclusive of employee CPF (your own contribution) and exclusive of the employer's contribution.
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blades29
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| samuel.faith wrote: | | sundaymorningstaple wrote: | | If you are a Myanmar national you will probably be looking at 1800~2000 SGD/mo max. I know this is not what you want to hear but thats the hard facts. |
Hi,
I understand I cannot get high paying jobs initially without securing a high educational qualification. What I want to know is if I can certainly secure a job with minimum pay of SGD1500. And what kind of job I can get.
Sam |
You should be above to earn > $2K in most corporate job positions given your 4 yrs experience. If you speak and write well, no problem at all to getting more $$$.
There is a Htin and a Sai in our team. Which tribe do you belong to?
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blades29
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| jp900 wrote: | | sundaymorningstaple wrote: | | If you are a Myanmar national you will probably be looking at 1800~2000 SGD/mo max. I know this is not what you want to hear but thats the hard facts. |
You seem to know banking. How about retail banking. How much do you think a manager (regional) in the likes of Citibank or DBS or Amex would make? Thanks! |
manager in retail banking probably would be a graduate or at least poly dip holder with about 5 yrs' work experience.
maybe in the $5K/mth range? (just my opinion)
but it is the private banking that pays better 'cos of the sales commission. |
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blades29
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| deelady wrote: |
Would like to do is being in Logistics Sector a good choice?
Do any here have words of wisdom for a student? Would be greatly appreciated. What kind of salary can a undergrad and a grad look for?
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My opinion is that logistics is somewhat like engineering. Stable though maybe not so exciting. It really depends on the sort of person that you are and what you enjoy doing.
Moving from a classroom environment to the workplace will test some of your non-academic skills.
How u PR with others?
Are you meticulous or creative?
Are you a good at planning/organizing or quick on the fly/on your feet?
What's important to you? Money? Lifestyle? Family? Religion? What drives u?
If u r a SG male and gone through NS, u probably have some idea what makes a man or mice.
Generally have a good presentation and attitude. The rest is luck to be at the right time and place to get the opportunity to success.
$2K as the benchmark - depends on industry and size of company. I would suggest new graduates to try work in a big MNC. |
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blades29
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| travellingcircus wrote: | It would seem the information on salaries and salary packages is very complex. There have been a few questions about whether sing100k ids enough to live and I am still a bit confused about the response.
It seems that a 2 bed condo would cost around 2500k a month as a min.As expats we also have our expenses in our home country to maintain. But from what I can work out a salary of 90-100k would be plenty for a family to live comfortably. perhaps i has miscalculated something?
Would appreciate any comments.
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it depends on your lifestyle.
2 bedroom HDB flat (public housing) cost half of a condo. So from a 100k pay, u can either save half of it or spend everything. |
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travellingcircus
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: will 7500SGD be good enough |
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| blades29 wrote: |
milk $20~$30 per 1 kg tin (4-6 mths old formula) - u probably need 2 tins per week at that age. |
At 4 months a baby is breastfed!
thanks for the reply to my question.
to the person working in europe and considering a 90k singapore package, i would ask for more. my way of thinking is that it has to be at least equivalent to the current wage. a straight conversion of currency is closer to 147k. we are in germany and we get low tax for having a family and a govt. payment each month. rent is cheaper where we are. so unless the cpmpany provides housing in the package seperately i would ask for more. for us, the singapore dollar is worth less than our home country dollar but the euro s more... we take this into consideration as we still have a mortgage to pay at home. |
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blades29
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Well, you are lucky if your missy can breastfeed longer.
For alot of working mums who resume working after 3 months' maternity leave, the milk production goes downhill from the 4th month.
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travellingcircus
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"Well, you are lucky if your missy can breastfeed longer."
not luck, lots of hard work, research, support, joining breastfeeding networks.... and sore boobs! The point I was making was that the response assumed that the person asking for a budget needed to include formula. But i just did a bit of research and singapore have very low breastfeeding stats compared to worldwide averages. there is a huge campaign to try to change this in singapore.... but this is OT.  |
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blades29
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point taken.
Pace of life in SG is fast. Wish there was more time to smell the roses. |
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