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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yewon wrote:
I had mine done in Singapore and it was a huge failure even after three revisions!
Don't want to name names but just to let u know, my doctor'c clinic is located in Mt E.
I will rather go Thailand than Malaysia and my frd had an eye and nose job there and it's great.
If cost and language is not a problem, I will definately recommend Korea as the place for plastic surgery.
I seriously regret not having it done there...I will definately not have any plastic surgery done in Singapore ever again!!!



hi yewon
ya can u tel me which surgeon u went to coz im goin to dr khoo at mt e for the surgery. thanks

by the way yylee8 how was ur surgery ? coz i also thought of goin to dr chan
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Cosmetic Surgery holidays Reply with quote

coco wrote:
ziggy cooper wrote:
I'm not sure about Beautiful Holidays, I enquired about a few things and they took ages to get back to me and then they didn't sound sure about their response. Also, you have to pay 100% upfront, even before you see the surgeon.

I went on a holiday with Gorgeous Getaways in Malaysia, they were unreal, so friendly and organised, they just did everything. I really chose them because that had a great amount of treatments and diet and fitness programs, and the accommodation at the Shangri-la was great.


hih
which part of malaysia was that? can i have the contact ? do they have all the plastic surgery service?? hope you can share



Gorgeous Getaways are in KL. They are just the operator, organising the whole surgery/hospital/holiday. Originally I was going to go myself to Dr Wong in KL, but he was just so incredibly rude! as anyone else been to him?
So then I got a little scared and decided to go with GG, it's the best thing I have done, as it was just good to have support and a friend there. I was really sick from the GA, it was probably the worst part of the operation, so it was good to have everything taken care of.
www.gorgeousgetaways.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaki wrote:
Yewon wrote:
I had mine done in Singapore and it was a huge failure even after three revisions!
Don't want to name names but just to let u know, my doctor'c clinic is located in Mt E.
I will rather go Thailand than Malaysia and my frd had an eye and nose job there and it's great.
If cost and language is not a problem, I will definately recommend Korea as the place for plastic surgery.
I seriously regret not having it done there...I will definately not have any plastic surgery done in Singapore ever again!!!



hi yewon
ya can u tel me which surgeon u went to coz im goin to dr khoo at mt e for the surgery. thanks

by the way yylee8 how was ur surgery ? coz i also thought of goin to dr chan


all i can say is avoid dr. chan if u want to do upper eyelid surgery. look at my nick and you'll know what i mean. i can't say much here. who knows he may come across this forum and sue me for defamation.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beentheredonethat wrote:
kaki wrote:
Yewon wrote:
I had mine done in Singapore and it was a huge failure even after three revisions!
Don't want to name names but just to let u know, my doctor'c clinic is located in Mt E.
I will rather go Thailand than Malaysia and my frd had an eye and nose job there and it's great.
If cost and language is not a problem, I will definately recommend Korea as the place for plastic surgery.
I seriously regret not having it done there...I will definately not have any plastic surgery done in Singapore ever again!!!



hi yewon
ya can u tel me which surgeon u went to coz im goin to dr khoo at mt e for the surgery. thanks

by the way yylee8 how was ur surgery ? coz i also thought of goin to dr chan


all i can say is avoid dr. chan if u want to do upper eyelid surgery. look at my nick and you'll know what i mean.


here i am again. i overlooked the 'dr.khoo' part of your message. u mean andrew khoo right? don't go to him for upper eyelid surgery.

if u can, i suggest u go seek other surgeons' advice. dr. wong at gleneagles, who's price is reasonable.

dr. martin huang at paragon.

dr. woffles wu...i guess seeking for his advice doesn't hurt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Plastic surgery Reply with quote

Am thinking of having lipo done soon in Singapore, but am living in Japan so actually Korea is much closer. Any recommendation? Or any idea on how I can find out more?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Watch it Reply with quote

Please do not impugn the name of others even by insinuation or you may have yourself in hot soup before you know it. Singapore is a small place. Just a piece of freindly advice Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Watch it Reply with quote

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Please do not impugn the name of others even by insinuation or you may have yourself in hot soup before you know it. Singapore is a small place. Just a piece of freindly advice Very Happy


Then how on earth am I going to warn kaki? PM doesn't work. I wonder if you are aware of that?

Insinuation? I'm telling the truth here, lawyer.

What do you know? Have you undergone "corrective" surgery before? Do you know how important it is to warn others should you feel the need to?

I know I'm taking the risk but talking about 'impugn' the name of others? Common, you think I would go this far just to 'impugn' somebody's name?

I feel obliged to entertain kaki's post because she needs to know something. Would you prefer her eyes or whatever to be messed up? Huh? Would you feel good if this happens to her?

If you are so noble, you would try to understand this. Get it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:01 am    Post subject: Guest Reply with quote

Telling the truth?
As Pontius Pilate asks 'What is the truth?'
No quarrel with your providing advice to others
But cautionary notes should not extend to specific finger pointing unless the guy is here to defend and speak for himself
For all we know you could be out to just 'get even' with him for reasons unknown to us that have nothing whatsoever to do with his professional work
So don't act as judge and jury here unless you are prepared to identify yourself. That my fren will then be a totally different story :!:
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: plastic surgery Reply with quote

What about plastic surgery in Costa Rica?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: nose & chin Reply with quote

crystalre wrote:
hi... im thinkin about having a nose and chin job here... however, ive been told that most of the surgeons here r not that good... any recomendations? anyone knows how how they'll cost? Confused:


Hi am planning on getting my nose done and wanted to know who did yours and are you happy with it? am thinking of getting mine done with dr matin huang
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: plastic sugery Reply with quote

i think you should really try yanhee i bagkok, go to the website they have the list of prices and services and i personally was very satified with the result, plus it's so natural, no one could tell i have surgery done.they just kept saying i look betterbut can't put a finger to where and how. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, I certainly don't recommend plastic surgery to anyone unless they need it to do for some health reason. If you are a lazy person, the aftercare is going to irrate you, esp for breast implants. you have to be extra careful the first few weeks after the surgery.
Try to compromise with your own natural looks. If you keep feeling unhappy with our looks, you might never be happy even after the plastic surgery cos you want to even be more beatiful. Yes, there may be some ugly parts of us, but we are sure to have some beatiful parts to compliment the ugly ones. Heaven is not so unfair. Very Happy
Some don't even need plastic surgery, for example, you can get a nice flat tummy if you work out the proper way, although it have to take quite a long time to see the result.. It's no use going for tummy tug when after that you just resume your usual lifestyle which leads you to have a big tummy in the first place. Very Happy Even after certain surgerys, one must prepare to change their lifestyle in order to maintain.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

starfantasy84 wrote:
Hi all, I certainly don't recommend plastic surgery to anyone unless they need it to do for some health reason. If you are a lazy person, the aftercare is going to irrate you, esp for breast implants. you have to be extra careful the first few weeks after the surgery.
Try to compromise with your own natural looks. If you keep feeling unhappy with our looks, you might never be happy even after the plastic surgery cos you want to even be more beatiful. Yes, there may be some ugly parts of us, but we are sure to have some beatiful parts to compliment the ugly ones. Heaven is not so unfair. Very Happy
Some don't even need plastic surgery, for example, you can get a nice flat tummy if you work out the proper way, although it have to take quite a long time to see the result.. It's no use going for tummy tug when after that you just resume your usual lifestyle which leads you to have a big tummy in the first place. Very Happy Even after certain surgerys, one must prepare to change their lifestyle in order to maintain.



Hi all, how come no one has mention the price!!! can share how much you all paid for the surgery?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: nose & chin Reply with quote

shalu wrote:
crystalre wrote:
hi... im thinkin about having a nose and chin job here... however, ive been told that most of the surgeons here r not that good... any recomendations? anyone knows how how they'll cost? Confused:


Hi am planning on getting my nose done and wanted to know who did yours and are you happy with it? am thinking of getting mine done with dr matin huang


Hi, I had prior primary rhinoplasty performed by Dr Woffles Wu. I was unaware of the stature he enjoyed until post-surgery, where a deluge of plastic surgery articles in the mass media featured comments by him. I was teetering on the edge of adulthood then (being 18), was lacking in emotional maturity, and suffered from a severe lack of self-esteem. I reckon because of my young age, and although he was not condescending, I felt intimidated by the consultation. I had educated myself extensively on rhinoplasty (nose jobs) from authoritative online sources and books before the consultation and was surprised to note that the pre-operative interview was lacking in detail. It was a very brief interview, and my options were only hastily discussed. Although I felt the severity ofthe procedure necessiated more thorough discussion, because of my age and how i felt dwarfed in his presence, I did not voice my objections. The surgery itself went without glitches, but Dr Woffles Wu deferred on the agreed plan by suggesting that it might be more aesthetically pleasing if I also had a silicone L-shaped implant in addition to having some cartilage removed to give the nose height. As I was under local anesthetic, I did agree to the suggestion while being in full-posession of my faculties. Post-operation, I suffered extremely bad brusing (it differs from one individual to another), but was offered little emotional support from either the staff or the doctor. I did not remember getting any reassurance. Aesthetically, my nose has gained considerable height but has retained its broadness, but I am in no way insinuating this to be at the fault of the surgeon. I understand that asians scar badly, and much of the residual cartilage could have been scar tissue. This is my personal experience, and having not talked to/consulted other surgeons, I am unable to arrive at an opinion on how he compares to other surgeons.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Who went korea to have their surgery? anyone can recommand?

I been doing researches but only get to know abt www.yanhee.net , personally i email yanhee hospital telling them wat i want for my surgery. they actually emailed me back about what i want in the email.

hmm... i wananaa do a Head to Toe plastic surgery .. LMAO!!!
seriiously i am not kidding... i want my eyes to be bigger... double eye lip to be deeper.... my care bear nose to be higher... i have full lips but i guess... some correction to it seems nicer.... and i am big size... i want lipo... of cos some face lit is better.... wanana do a pair of dimples...

just wannaa change.... to have a better life..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iris wrote:
Hey, Who went korea to have their surgery? anyone can recommand?

I been doing researches but only get to know abt www.yanhee.net , personally i email yanhee hospital telling them wat i want for my surgery. they actually emailed me back about what i want in the email.

hmm... i wananaa do a Head to Toe plastic surgery .. LMAO!!!
seriiously i am not kidding... i want my eyes to be bigger... double eye lip to be deeper.... my care bear nose to be higher... i have full lips but i guess... some correction to it seems nicer.... and i am big size... i want lipo... of cos some face lit is better.... wanana do a pair of dimples...

just wannaa change.... to have a better life..


Are you having such a bad life now that you want to change everything that is natural for yourself? And oh yah, if you don't take care of your weight after that, you'll still gain weight after lipo. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: eyelid Reply with quote

ya i did op for droopy eyelids.spent 7k and was so fake and ugly
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:35 am    Post subject: Plastic surgery Singapore Reply with quote

This for Elena or anyone interested,
This is a bit late since I just found out about this site but you did mentioned that you are doing this towards the end of the year. I am a post operative, 2x lipo done in Europe. Still very unsatisfied with results and proceeded to Dr. A to inform myself about further corrections. I could not agree with you more about his arrogance. And if I were tell you that the price he quoted for the "job" is more than my two op's-from-two-well-known-surgeons-in-Munich you probably won't believe me, but it's true. He is so full of himself, I am surprise he doesn't charge for incoming calls!
From experience, I can only tell you, you have to feel comfortable with your surgeon, no matter how "famous" they are. If your feeling is telling you she is a b---- or he is a d---, then trust that feeling and keep searching.
I consulted one in Gleneagles, his name eludes me, but he is on the 7th floor. Bad feeling with him and communication was like pulling teeth. I proceeded to Dr. B (Paragon) and with him, I must say I had a very positive feeling and consultation. He is also pricey but would cost less than Dr. A. I am seriously considering having the "job" done with him and would welcome any comments from his past patients, patients-to-be or someone that knows of his work.
I, too, am looking into the option Bangkok or Phuket and would love to hear any feedback or recommendations as to where to go.
As for the person suggesting not do implants at all, there are women getting implants for other reasons than increasing their size, or just for other reasons, period. If we are asking for advice as to whether to do it or not, then please feel free to kick in. Otherwise, please don't. For a lot of us who have made this decision, it has not been an easy one, and comments like yours just tend to complicate things. I like the fact that people are getting informed and learning from my mistakes.
I hope this is helpful. 8) Smile Smile Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: Plastic surgery Singapore Reply with quote

This is nymphie from the previous post, in the interest of coherent reading. heh

Yep, i couldn't agree more. This is true especially in the consultation room, where an obvious power disparity exists. The doctor should be assertive, confidant in offering his professional expertise but in the process you should not feel in the least uncomfortable or ill at ease with the way your surgeon is managing the consultation. Choose the best candidate, settle for no one less.

PS: The quip about the incoming calls was so true! haahha Smile Maybe the fame went to his head, I am not sure Shocked


[quote="wraj, wraj"]This for Elena or anyone interested,
This is a bit late since I just found out about this site but you did mentioned that you are doing this towards the end of the year. I am a post operative, 2x lipo done in Europe. Still very unsatisfied with results and proceeded to Dr. A to inform myself about further corrections. I could not agree with you more about his arrogance. And if I were tell you that the price he quoted for the "job" is more than my two op's-from-two-well-known-surgeons-in-Munich you probably won't believe me, but it's true. He is so full of himself, I am surprise he doesn't charge for incoming calls!
From experience, I can only tell you, you have to feel comfortable with your surgeon, no matter how "famous" they are. If your feeling is telling you she is a b---- or he is a d---, then trust that feeling and keep searching.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one done and it failed. I dunno which doc can i trust anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am intending to do a nose job to make the mose narrower . Anyone who has done it please suggest doctor to me. I am lost and confused. I see that many doctors that some of you have said to be bad. I hate doctors with only business and money in their eyes. I have a personal problem and really hope it to be fixed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Plastic surgery in Singapore Reply with quote

Dear Merr,
Have you informed him of your dissatisfaction, and if so, what was his reaction?

A further note of advice to all others, it is well worth paying the consultation charges and going from surgeon to surgeon instead of trying to save the money on that end (that was the mistake I made the 1st time around). The price for a botched up job is much worse - and I don't mean monetary! Getting informed is also extremely important.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Tummy Tick and Breast Enlargement. Reply with quote

[font=Tahoma:4802820865]Hi Everyone. I am a newbie here and this is the first time I have posted.
I am in Australia and Plastic Surgery is sooooo expensive here. I am thinking of having it done either in Bangkok or Singaore.
I am wanting a Tummy Tuck done as well as Breast Enlargement.
Anyone, please advise me where to start?
Thanks so much Very Happy[/font:4802820865]
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's an eyelid surgery. I don't want to say anything bad abt him here as he can sue me back. All i can say is realistic. I have been so depressed as i put so much hope. I really dunno who should i go to as i really need to do sth to my look. All the doctors seem a bit dishonest in some sense. Can you suggest any good doctors in Singapore in eyelid and nose surgery.

If anyone has a successful cosmetic surgery, pls share with me. I don't want to have a failed one again which is killing ppl for having a knife cut in your face.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merrr wrote:
it's an eyelid surgery. I don't want to say anything bad abt him here as he can sue me back. All i can say is realistic. I have been so depressed as i put so much hope. I really dunno who should i go to as i really need to do sth to my look. All the doctors seem a bit dishonest in some sense. Can you suggest any good doctors in Singapore in eyelid and nose surgery.

If anyone has a successful cosmetic surgery, pls share with me. I don't want to have a failed one again which is killing ppl for having a knife cut in your face.

Dear Merr,
I cannot see how a doctor can sue you if you are not revealing personal details of yourself. Even if the provided details may sound familiar to any of these doctors, what base will they have to sue? An assumption? You have any idea how embarassing it would be for a doctor to approach a past patient he/she thinks might be the one? I don't think so! This is a forum, which means you should feel free to express your opinion about events and outcomes that have affected you. I don't think that these doctors are looking into these forums, although I frankly wish they would. I know if I were one I would.
A lot of people are intimidated by doctors, especially the arrogant ones and will not express their concerns or dissatisfaction, although you have every right to. For goodness sake, you paid for that service, so why should you not be able to judge upon it? I have no qualms about expressing my opinion, because I wish that I had had a forum I could consult before I went for my first procedure. God knows I tried!
It's difficult enough finding sympathy from family and friends when it comes to plastic surgery. Half of them are scared and the other half is uninformed, trying to talk you out and give you advice on something they know nothing about. So you see, we all have a common interest here. And for those posting otherwise, I shall use my freedom of choice to just simply ignore you.
That being said, I am still very curious to know if you approached him with your complaint and what his reaction was.
As for the Australian entry, join the club. If you have been following these discussions, you will have noticed that with the exception of about two or three, I cannot get anything conclusive here. I can only tell you that based on my consultation with him, I cannot recommend Dr. Woffles due to his inabilitity to see beyond the dollars (which are many) and himself (who is God...)
To be fair, I cannot judge on his work (take a look at "nymphie's" comment from Sept. 7, maybe there you can get more of an insight). He probably is a brilliant surgeon, who knows... There are certain surgeons that have their specialty, most of them will not admit to it because they want you to believe that they are good and capable in all areas of this field, but it is true. Maybe one that does a great facelift sucks -pardon the pun- in liposuction. Although I don't expect a friendship to emerge from the doctor/patient relationship, experience has taught me that a certain amount of "sympathy" or liking is necessary.
I still am actively looking for alternatives in the neighboring countries (Thailand and Philippines) and would welcome testimonials from patients who have had their jobs done there, in particular (but not limited to) liposuction and breast augmentation. Prices here in Singapore are really high, and just in browsing, I am so amazed at how much cheaper the prices are in e.g. Bangkok and that's including everything (doctor's fee, anesthesiologist, hospital fees, implants, etc.).
If I am able to get more information through other sources, I shall post them here. In the meantime, good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, I have a need to clarify, since I noticed the names I have quoted have been changed (not from me) to Dr. A & B. Soooo, for the new ones, Dr. A is a certain individual at the Camden Medical Center and Dr. B is another person located at Paragon.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone been to Dr Fong at Thomson Medical Centre? He's a clinic there, formerly from Gleneagles. I've been with him abt 10 years. His prices are reasonable.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minnie wrote:
Has anyone been to Dr Fong at Thomson Medical Centre? He's a clinic there, formerly from Gleneagles. I've been with him abt 10 years. His prices are reasonable.


But is he good? Does he provide before and after shots of his work? Any testimonials available?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm seriously considering removing my eye bags but i'm in a dilemma as to which doc is good,don't want a botched job!Any recommendations anyone?Am considering Dr Leslie Kuek(gleneagles),anyone had it done by him before?Would really appreciate any information or you can email me at yeith@yahoo.com.Tks again!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm seriously considering removing my eye bags but i'm in a dilemma as to which doc is good,don't want a botched job!Any recommendations anyone?Am considering Dr Leslie Kuek(gleneagles),anyone had it done by him before?Would really appreciate any information or you can email me at yeith@yahoo.com.Tks again!
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